PkHonor

Iron vok wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 6:50 am There's a reason mods don't have access to personal information regarding account details. No one needs it aside from the recovery admin.

Raj wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 7:16 am

Iron vok wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 6:50 am There's a reason mods don't have access to personal information regarding account details. No one needs it aside from the recovery admin.

You would be surprised how many people just happily put their passwords and their PINs in recoveries. Off-topic but if anyone is reading this and ever posts a recovery, do not post your PIN, do not post your password, we don’t want to or need to know them to do the recovery, in fact it’s best as few people have access to identifying/sensitive information as possible. That goes for the suggestion Vok was replying to as well

Kash wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 6:28 am
I don't see a need for removing the yell timer - if a player yells needing help, a helper would yell what they can and continue helping in PMs.

Panda wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 7:06 am I don't see the purpose of a better yell timer, Yell once and if he needs further assistance, you can always send him a direct message via MSGS.

Jumping bug wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 7:24 am

Kash wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 6:28 am
I don't see a need for removing the yell timer - if a player yells needing help, a helper would yell what they can and continue helping in PMs.

Panda wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 7:06 am I don't see the purpose of a better yell timer, Yell once and if he needs further assistance, you can always send him a direct message via MSGS.

I absolutely see your guys's point but I don't think there's an issue with a reduced yelltimer. I have never once seen it abused by a staff member repeatedly and any abuse claimed has just been simply a troll teasing staff members. I would honestly love to hear a good argument on why a yelltimer reduction for helpers would be a bad idea or how this could potentially harm the server in a negative way. Spam is annoying but is far from harmful unless it was never taken care of.

And the biggest problem and why I strongly disagree with both of you is that switching to pms completely robs other players on Pkhonor from learning from that players question as well. If a question is asked via yell or help cc, it gives far more than just that one player a chance to learn something new. Consider how one persons question asked publicly can save you from multiple players asking the same question multiple times.

On a busy server when yell is active (not exactly a big issue at present moment), a yelltimer restriction may separate a 1st and 2nd yell explaining the solution to a problem in a short period of time making it more difficult or confusing for the players needing help.

This has been brought up before but I'll bring it up again. Many players have multiple accounts capable of yelling and yet spam yells by the same person hasn't really been a big issue. So I really don't think we have anything to worry about with multiple yells from a helper in a short time span.

• helpers should appear on ::staff, under their own "Helpers" category,
• should have a better yell timer (half of what premium donor have at least)
• I love the concept of having a ::xteleto <<Username>> that functions exactly like ::private but it only teleports the helper ( with the other player having to ::accept the teleport)
• As a reward of their hard work, having a 5%(?) extra experience is more than fine, considering you can't apply for helper, and they are manually picked
• The last thing, what I fear the most, is the "helper curse". Ever since the rank was brought back, it had a giant curse. Whoever had it, got extremely inactive, rendering the rank pretty much useless. Even Juntow nowadays is just an afking machine. I'd say I got lucky with it since I stepped up to mod quite fast after getting helper. Would love to at least have a 5h-10h playtime requirement per week.

Respire1337 wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 8:44 am So as a little summary :

• helpers should appear on ::staff, under their own "Helpers" category,
• should have a better yell timer (half of what premium donor have at least)
• I love the concept of having a ::xteleto <<Username>> that functions exactly like ::private but it only teleports the helper ( with the other player having to ::accept the teleport)
• As a reward of their hard work, having a 5%(?) extra experience is more than fine, considering you can't apply for helper, and they are manually picked
• The last thing, what I fear the most, is the "helper curse". Ever since the rank was brought back, it had a giant curse. Whoever had it, got extremely inactive, rendering the rank pretty much useless. Even Juntow nowadays is just an afking machine. I'd say I got lucky with it since I stepped up to mod quite fast after getting helper. Would love to at least have a 5h-10h playtime requirement per week.

Iron vok wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 10:06 am

Respire1337 wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 8:44 am So as a little summary :

• helpers should appear on ::staff, under their own "Helpers" category,
• should have a better yell timer (half of what premium donor have at least)
• I love the concept of having a ::xteleto <<Username>> that functions exactly like ::private but it only teleports the helper ( with the other player having to ::accept the teleport)
• As a reward of their hard work, having a 5%(?) extra experience is more than fine, considering you can't apply for helper, and they are manually picked
• The last thing, what I fear the most, is the "helper curse". Ever since the rank was brought back, it had a giant curse. Whoever had it, got extremely inactive, rendering the rank pretty much useless. Even Juntow nowadays is just an afking machine. I'd say I got lucky with it since I stepped up to mod quite fast after getting helper. Would love to at least have a 5h-10h playtime requirement per week.

Honestly sums it up quite well, but I do still feel a Leave of Absence thread for helpers would do really well.