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This.Troll n roll wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:24 pmThis or make it 1/3 chance to hit twice.Adamthalion wrote:The issue is not the blowpipe. The issue is the chaos comp cape, as it always has been. The solution is to nerf chaos whip and cape. Instead of increasing the attack speed by 1 tick, give them a 30% chance of an attack hitting 1 tick faster.
@Nazuths just to be clear, is option one saying that only the BP w/ chaos comp will be at 50% while all other weapons the combo stays the same? If that's the case, then I'd prefer option 1, but if all item combinations are nerfed because of the BP then I'd vote to remove the bonus for 1 tick weapons instead.Rapsey wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:09 pm Option 1 all the way. Chaos comp doubling the DPS of what is already one of the best ranged weapons was an oversight that should never have happened. It's way overpowered and it needs to be corrected. Only reason it hasn't is because people have become attached to their OP chaingun making life super easy and we're averse to making decisions that will upset people. If there was ever a perfect example of how sometimes doing the right thing is not the same as doing the popular thing, this is it.
With our vastly reduced NPC defence stats and that custom +50% DPS increase BP would still be way more powerful than it actually should be, but at least other ranged weapons would have a chance in some situations.
Any 2-tick weapon, that would otherwise become a 1-tick weapon because of the completionist cape (chaos) effect, will under the effect of option 1, maintain their 2-tick attack speed, however, additionally it will have a 50% chance to double hit. This would not affect the other weapons with an attack speed higher than 2. If you vote on option 1, that's what you're voting for.Thearlygamer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:33 pm@Nazuths just to be clear, is option one saying that only the BP w/ chaos comp will be at 50% while all other weapons the combo stays the same? If that's the case, then I'd prefer option 1, but if all item combinations are nerfed because of the BP then I'd vote to remove the bonus for 1 tick weapons instead.Rapsey wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:09 pm Option 1 all the way. Chaos comp doubling the DPS of what is already one of the best ranged weapons was an oversight that should never have happened. It's way overpowered and it needs to be corrected. Only reason it hasn't is because people have become attached to their OP chaingun making life super easy and we're averse to making decisions that will upset people. If there was ever a perfect example of how sometimes doing the right thing is not the same as doing the popular thing, this is it.
With our vastly reduced NPC defence stats and that custom +50% DPS increase BP would still be way more powerful than it actually should be, but at least other ranged weapons would have a chance in some situations.
Also just to reiterate, I don't think the BP should be nerfed further. We still need it to be an entry level pvm weapon for new players, but the Tbow should out preform by a large margin to it to justify the difficulty between the 2.
Thanks for the clarification, I knew you thought of everything and agree option 1 is the only logical option. Please do the right thing here brotherNazuths wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:45 pmAny 2-tick weapon, that would otherwise become a 1-tick weapon because of the completionist cape (chaos) effect, will under the effect of option 1, maintain their 2-tick attack speed, however, additionally it will have a 50% chance to double hit. This would not affect the other weapons with an attack speed higher than 2. If you vote on option 1, that's what you're voting for.Thearlygamer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:33 pm@Nazuths just to be clear, is option one saying that only the BP w/ chaos comp will be at 50% while all other weapons the combo stays the same? If that's the case, then I'd prefer option 1, but if all item combinations are nerfed because of the BP then I'd vote to remove the bonus for 1 tick weapons instead.Rapsey wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:09 pm Option 1 all the way. Chaos comp doubling the DPS of what is already one of the best ranged weapons was an oversight that should never have happened. It's way overpowered and it needs to be corrected. Only reason it hasn't is because people have become attached to their OP chaingun making life super easy and we're averse to making decisions that will upset people. If there was ever a perfect example of how sometimes doing the right thing is not the same as doing the popular thing, this is it.
With our vastly reduced NPC defence stats and that custom +50% DPS increase BP would still be way more powerful than it actually should be, but at least other ranged weapons would have a chance in some situations.
Also just to reiterate, I don't think the BP should be nerfed further. We still need it to be an entry level pvm weapon for new players, but the Tbow should out preform by a large margin to it to justify the difficulty between the 2.
ofcourse you are keen to lose that much if you do around 300 cox kc lol.Longbone2k17 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:28 pm Can we stop nerfing Blow pipe? the trade for bp is that its a pain in the ass to maintain. if you use the blow pipe youll always find yourself back at the money snake farming up some scales. Eye of ra had 100k scales at COX launch, and now hes down to 15k. Darts are also a pain to get. What does it take to maintain a tbow? the range shop at ::shops.