Don't they typically coincide though? Like a Legend's Cape or Initiate is the best example, they're junk everywhere else in RS(PS), but consistently used as long term investments on PkH. They're also used as a status symbol (pride). This was the case for the first 6 or 7 years of PkHonor, they only became donation items several years ago. But they started off as uniques. Wooden shields too. They were turned into donation items later on, and I think Rapsey has a detailed post somewhere about the pro's and con's of that kind decision. Not saying bowls should become donation items too, but rather that we certainly have accepted some unobtainables as a part of the economy in the past. It was easier with Initiate/Legends/Woodens IMO due to their volume. The problem seems to be more obscure items/items with less volume. Officially, the decision to pay like 1T for the one-off Gilded set was stated to be a mistake. IMO it was a great idea. But that's a difference of opinion - it's clearly more involved to do it case-by-case. But there's also a pretty limited number of one-offs when compared to something like Initiate sets.Raj wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:53 pm @Patel worth mentioning the difference though between owning unobtainable items for your own pride, and trying to sell them years after obtaining them for profit, demanding compensation if anything is done to fix the issue of the junk items being traded at absurd prices. I understand some items this is accepted because they’re effectively donation items. I don’t believe these fall under that category
Why not openly acknowledge that they're not 100B without trying to make sure they're never sold at that price? Do you mean declining requests to increase the value in ::prices, or physically intervening on every possible trade to make sure it never happens? I.e. if some new player is told a bowl is 100b, and you say 'no it's definitely worth a lot less than that, you're getting scammed', isn't it entirely their choice to buy it for 100B after being informed? I can agree that there's a problem if new players lack access to this information (if ::prices become manipulated or something). It's not like they're reasonably priced anymore, I remember Woodens being as low as a few bil and even then, it wasn't exactly tough to find out that they were expensive for a reason. I think the idea that someone lacks assurance/this leads to scams isn't invalid, but also that the responsibility to prevent a scam extends to communicating the validity of the pricing.If selling bowls for 100B is ok, then players don’t have any assurance that junk items are junk items, allowing for scams. If we openly acknowledge bowls aren’t 100B, and try to make it so that they’re never sold for that price, someone’s feelings are hurt. Seems like a lose-lose
I feel like a lot of this stems from PKH being an RSPS and not a game developed by some studio - there are countless degeneracies in item spawns and methods of obtaining them that are just not seen or overlooked. And of course it leads to one-offs/un-obtainables over, and over, and over again. I'm not saying y'all should give up on trying to resolve the issues that stem from this, but sometimes the choice is between 'fixing' by rolling with it and figuring out how to inform people and 'fixing' by outlawing, tracing steps, and removing items from the game.
I demand to have my Torva back. I have not been able to cope with the emotional scars... Otherwise I shall remain off the staff team that I dedicated many pours of vodka to hours upon hours on...Azu rite wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:29 pm I demand to have my glitched method of obtaining palm leaves reinstated and for them to be tradeable again so I can sell the ones I have for 100b. I have not been able to cope with the emotional scars caused from this server years ago whenever people were scaming at the duel arena with this item, causing Mike to make them unobtainable and untradeable. I shall return to the server once my demands have been met, otherwise I shall remain logged out of my account that I poured hours upon hours on.
