PkHonor

Rapsey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:04 pm We always thought that any new item should have at least 10 introduced in the initial sale, out of concern that any less would cause too great an impact if more are added later. I reckon if there was only one, we could never add a second without pissing off the one player who has had a one-off up until then. Do you think maybe we're being too paranoid about that?

Iron adam wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:09 am

Rapsey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:04 pm We always thought that any new item should have at least 10 introduced in the initial sale, out of concern that any less would cause too great an impact if more are added later. I reckon if there was only one, we could never add a second without pissing off the one player who has had a one-off up until then. Do you think maybe we're being too paranoid about that?

I agree that doing 10 would be better than just 1. Regardless of which option you go with for a given item, just be clear that the sale is not a 1 off and there will be more in the future. This prevents the whole issue of 'discontinued' items. We should never have discontinued items, only extremely rare items. This was a problem that you guys inherited, but you can avoid it in the future.

Googlestar wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:22 am Maybe instead of seeing the same bunch of rares maybe add different types of rares? E.g the for icons healer,collector,defender and attacker. Maybe see some demon kiteshields, even the Barek godsword with its stats be a very fun weapon use in pvp Also see some rare mystery boxes that cost 20k credits each and give a chance to obtain a rare from the box. Just some suggestions.

Thierryu1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:01 am

Googlestar wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:22 am Maybe instead of seeing the same bunch of rares maybe add different types of rares? E.g the for icons healer,collector,defender and attacker. Maybe see some demon kiteshields, even the Barek godsword with its stats be a very fun weapon use in pvp Also see some rare mystery boxes that cost 20k credits each and give a chance to obtain a rare from the box. Just some suggestions.

Never add stats to a SUPER RARE. That can be seen as p2w.

Googlestar wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:24 am

Thierryu1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:01 am

Googlestar wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:22 am Maybe instead of seeing the same bunch of rares maybe add different types of rares? E.g the for icons healer,collector,defender and attacker. Maybe see some demon kiteshields, even the Barek godsword with its stats be a very fun weapon use in pvp Also see some rare mystery boxes that cost 20k credits each and give a chance to obtain a rare from the box. Just some suggestions.

Never add stats to a SUPER RARE. That can be seen as p2w.

Good point, dont add barek to donor shop but add it into the game some other way

Thierryu1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:01 am

Googlestar wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:22 am Maybe instead of seeing the same bunch of rares maybe add different types of rares? E.g the for icons healer,collector,defender and attacker. Maybe see some demon kiteshields, even the Barek godsword with its stats be a very fun weapon use in pvp Also see some rare mystery boxes that cost 20k credits each and give a chance to obtain a rare from the box. Just some suggestions.

Never add stats to a SUPER RARE. That can be seen as p2w.

Iron adam wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:43 am

Thierryu1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:01 am

Googlestar wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:22 am Maybe instead of seeing the same bunch of rares maybe add different types of rares? E.g the for icons healer,collector,defender and attacker. Maybe see some demon kiteshields, even the Barek godsword with its stats be a very fun weapon use in pvp Also see some rare mystery boxes that cost 20k credits each and give a chance to obtain a rare from the box. Just some suggestions.

Never add stats to a SUPER RARE. That can be seen as p2w.

They can have stats, just not significantly better than other items. Look at the frozen whip and lava whip. same stats as whip but fasionable

Rapsey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:04 pm There is one serious question I would like to ask all of you, because this really does puzzle me.

When rich veterans make hundreds of billions (or even trillions) merching any other item in the game - which only benefits their own bank and nothing else - we say well done.
But when a rich veteran does exactly the same with credits - which helps the server a ton in addition to benefiting their bank - we treat them like selfish scum.

Everyone on here is trying to boost their own wealth. Why is it evil that they are merching in a way that indirectly keeps the server alive for us all, but everyone else who is literally only merching to fill their own pockets is claiming the moral high ground? Can someone please explain that to me?

Thearlygamer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:45 pm

Rapsey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:04 pm There is one serious question I would like to ask all of you, because this really does puzzle me.

When rich veterans make hundreds of billions (or even trillions) merching any other item in the game - which only benefits their own bank and nothing else - we say well done.
But when a rich veteran does exactly the same with credits - which helps the server a ton in addition to benefiting their bank - we treat them like selfish scum.

Everyone on here is trying to boost their own wealth. Why is it evil that they are merching in a way that indirectly keeps the server alive for us all, but everyone else who is literally only merching to fill their own pockets is claiming the moral high ground? Can someone please explain that to me?

Still reading your book (I'm kidding), but just to hit on this question; the reason players have a problem with this is because, other players trying to merch credits create forum posts such as these where they're trying to influence how they can make money with what items.

It's as if a player hoarded all the whips of chaos in the game and then made a forum posts discussing that they want the whips to be buffed, it only benefits them and they're trying to manipulate people to buffing it so they can have a fatter pay day and then say that their post is genuine because they care about the whip being buffed.