Nex Gear Rebalancing Poll

[Raj]

Hello gamers,


The question has come up of whether we should rebalance Nex gear to match OSRS stats and effects.

A summary of our current Nex gear can be found here: https://wiki.pkhonor.net/items/nex_gear


Torva:

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Current stats:


Proposed stats (https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Torva_armour):

Virtus:

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Current stats:


Proposed stats (https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Virtus_robes):

Pernix:

Pernix is slightly different from the others, as it would be receiving a large and obvious buff. The goal is to match the stats of OSRS ranged gear until ToA can be released, which may take some time due to needing major client upgrades. When the issues blocking progress on ToA are eventually resolved, Pernix would be reverted to its original stats.

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Current stats:


Proposed stats (https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Maso ... ortified_2):

Additionally:

• For rebalanced armor, should the buff to hitpoints be kept or removed?
• Should the full set accuracy boost for the Nex sets be kept or removed?

I know the poll is a bit of a pain, but please vote on it, thanks everyone.

[Raj]

Just my take as a player, and as a dev, I think we should make everything match OSRS as closely as possible so that balancing doesn't need special handling, and content can be engaging for players with and without Nex gear. That means removing the HP buffs, and rebalancing the bonuses to match OSRS. But we will leave it to the poll. Just my 2 cents

[Attack like]

zzz keep nex armor the same

[Akuizm]

zzz keep nex armor the same

I'm ok with keeping everything the same.

[Empty]

match torva with osrs torva, BUT reduce the current hp boost that it gives by 50% as the game is already so AFKable for the late game players with soul capes and stuff, i think -50% would be a sweet spot, can be also adjusted later if that doesnt seem to do much.

I'd like virtus to be nerfed aswell as pernix by say 15% this would make getting druidic/ancestral great incentive and upcoming masori #soon.

Having full pernix with a ZCB that will soon be released (with the current pernix stats) just seems a litte bit too op for my taste.

[Nolan]

match torva with osrs torva, BUT reduce the current hp boost that it gives by 50% as the game is already so AFKable for the late game players with soul capes and stuff, i think -50% would be a sweet spot, can be also adjusted later if that doesnt seem to do much.

Agree.

[Uim killerb]

i dont like idea of makeing nex "harder" but make the gear worse

[Fungamer]

I'm not in favor of many nerfs. We're an RSPS and I like the fact that we have the whole HP boost and accuracy boost. Nex/Raids gear is (and has to be) the best gear available. I'm okay with swapping things around to match the general feel of OSRS (e.g making torva more focussed on offense, but then also buffing justiciar(?) to match what torva is right now), but we will never be able to have things be 1:1 like OSRS and have it feel good without completely rebalancing every single piece of gear including customs and enchanted comp cape and tackle overloads and super prayers. And if that happened, the majority of the playerbase might as well play Leagues or a "better server" since we'd be becoming one of the many OSRS clones where we just level up faster and have a donator store rather than PKH giving a unique spin on what OSRS is. "OP" stuff is fine as long as we don't have AK47's.


It's not like high tier content can be completely skipped or AFKed right now. Sure you can AFK most slayer mobs and sort of AFK GWD if you're in BiS. Who gives a shit. Let more bandos come into the game so more people will bandos risk lmao. It already takes an hour for a new player to grind gear for 1 dh fight where he's going to get shat on by someone with curses.
Maybe you wont have to do an extra phase of clicking the same exact tiles a few times or change prayers/swap gear, but again who gives a shit besides the nerds who think PKH is OSRS.

When you reach that point where you're OP, you've sunk 500-1k+ hours into the server and deserve strong stuff. At that point you're out of interesting challenges that aren't "grind 49495t cash and click mahogany bench 5000000 times". Taking away fun stuff & making reaching those 500-1k+ hours less motivating for others isn't going to fix that empty feeling you get when playing a game you've essentially beaten. In the past I would've never grinded GP to get premium with the cool bonuses because all the cool kids were on yell. I would've never bothered grinding cash for my first custom whip if I didn't see people have an easier time doing slayer. I wouldn't have gotten all the xp for ench comp if it wasn't for other, better players going BRRRRRRRR with blowpipe. I would've never bothered learning ToB or CoX rooms if PKH didn't offer "training wheels" like customs and strong nex gear. And I'm definitely not the only one.

Not like anyone is stopping the people complaining about strong gear from doing raids in barrows/gwd gear, regular tent whip and max cape. As long as the strong gear remains balanced in pvp its fine

i dont like idea of makeing nex "harder" but make the gear worse

Agreed. Nex went from super-accessible for anyone to having to set up a team and/or learn solo mechanics. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe irons will still have to solo nex with WIM. Irons will have a very hard time getting items that, though not super easy (still took a lot of grinding), were far easier to get in the past.



/Rant

[Will be ok2]

Seems like the overwhelming support goes to leaving it as it is and not needing it

[Raj]

I'm not in favor of many nerfs.

Technically these would all be DPS buffs and nerfs to the defensive stats (except Pernix, which would just be completely buffed)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe irons will still have to solo nex with WIM.

You are wrong

i dont like idea of makeing nex "harder" but make the gear worse

So the issue is like, say Nex's special attacks have their max hit of like 60-70 they have on OSRS. In Torva, with your 50 HP boost, this leaves an 80 HP buffer, meaning you can legitimately tank 2 back to back special attacks, AFK with souls for a bit, and be fine. At 99 HP, or even 110, tanking 2 back to back 70's is just not happening. The issue is that people fundamentally do not want the gear to be worse. So the solution is to make Nex hit higher. We can simply not solve the issue, but at that point,why even add mechanics to any bosses at all, just make the game an idle loot spawner and call it a day.